Thanks FireFox 3.5 for erasing my saved passwords, you piece of .

Everything else is ok. (Stupid default settings of erasing all logins)

Firefox 3 is cool, it has alot of options i dont use, i wish there was a Lite version of Firefox 3 really it consumes so much Ram.

This didn't happen to me nor have I heard of anyone else losing saved passwords. The only possible conclusion is user error.

Because a program has never done something one time.

More likely a bug in 3.5 with one of my addons.

Hi shaka. I have 8GB of ram so no worries here.... I do have a FF addon that saves images for each visited site I go to for that session and sometimes long sessions will start to slow down from it. But those are when the browser has been open and I've been visiting a lot of sites for over 4 hours. (It saves more than thumbnails as the pics can be enlarged and still maintain their quality)

For the most part, I never actually see differences in the new FF browsers any more. If sites start using that video stuff they talked about, that might be nice, but I bet it will be like trying to convince somebody to buy bluray, when they have 100s or 1000s of DVDs. I've yet to notice any speed improvements yet.

Sorry, but that's a rather dumb statement. According to your logic, BluRay should never be brought to the consumer market because people still own a large number of DVD's.
Firefox 3.5 introduces HTML5 support and javascript support for new HTML5 features. If all major browsers have this level of HTML5 support, then that's something wonderful for web developers. It opens up a huge number of new possibilities.

As an example, here's something I'm working on based on HTML5. So far it's only tested in Firefox 3.5 so it could be that it doesn't work in other browsers:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~jplamon/imgws/

That's all done with Javascript and HTML5. No server side code.
It basically allows you to load one of the two pictures and change the red/blue/green channel intensities. It still bugs a bit but that's my own doing. I'm planning on adding features such as allowing you to paint to the image and apply effects.

People are already making complete games in HTML5 with Javascript. Some pretty impressive. I'm also busy building my own rendering framework that allows you to render to a 2d canvas where everything you draw to the screen can be referenced as an object, something that's lacking from the current HTML5 canvas implementation. I've added some additional tricks to it already, like a built-in animation framework. Not sure if I'll ever find the time and motivation to bring it to a level where it's actually feature complete and useful, but the intention is there

Sure it would be great IF all browsers supported it. I can't remember the point that I was trying to make when I made that post, but I think it was that the new things are great, but when FF is ahead of the crowd, it doesn't really matter when they add something so huge and fancy, because until the majority or at the very least IE supports it, it's less likely you will ever see websites that are coded with it.

A website coded specifically for FF is pretty rare if it all. I mean, websites are coded for proper CSS which FF seems to run the best, but for a whole new feature that (as far as I know or remember) only FF supports currently, we won't see anything until the announcement that it's included in IE too.

Like you say, there are small projects here and there that use the new tech, but for the most part, it's business as usual.

Perhaps those small projects can make benefits of these improvements, but then they should promote them to the developer side, and not make such a big deal about them to the general public where they don't much at all.

I just get sick of FF making a big deal about every release, when in reality not all that much is being improved for the most part.

FF is really getting to the point where Winamp was many years ago.

It does what it needs to do, but the programmers feel they need to keep adding on to it and making it do more than what it was originally designed to do.

I never wanted my winamp to do visual things, or tie into itunes, or make calls to the internet to find the names of my songs, but they load it up with all these crap features.

The addon idea is great, but now I want some plug-outs where I can say I don't need this feature, or this feature, or this feature, and unchecking those boxes or whatnot actually speeds up my FF.

Don't get me wrong, speed improvement for certain types of code is great and all, but don't make it like it's this huge improvement when:

1. It's not.
2. It mainly only matters to developers.

I've never used a javascript photo manipulation web app, nor to I plan to.

If it speeds up java in general, great. But speeding up java alone and making a huge deal about it is just absurd.

Speed up your browser launch in Windows 7. It takes 10 seconds to launch in that OS as compared to others. (MS at work here?)

They would do better to focus on addons having functionality across FF versions? I'm really tired of upgrading FF and 20+ of my addons stop working.

Comparing Firefox's HTML5 support to WinAmp's visualizations is rather absurd to be honest. A better analogy would be to compare FireFox's HTML5 support to WimAmp introducing support for FLAC or OGG audio. Only a small portion of people actually use OGG, but as the format's popularity increases, you'll see more software supporting it. It's a vicious circle. As long as there's no software to support a format, no one will use it. WinAmp adding support for OGG breaks that cycle. The same is true for FireFox adding HTML5 support. It's a first step towards HTML5 becoming a web standard.

Also, Opera 10 supports HTML5 as well and Google's upcoming Chrome 4 will support HTML5. The new Safari supports HTML5 as well. So you see, nearly all major browsers do. This is not a case of FireFox running ahead of the crowd, it's a case of FireFox keeping up with advancements in web technology and building a platform for acceptance of the HTML5 standard.

It is true that Internet Explorer (8) does not support HTML5 (or at least, it doesn't support most of the important parts). But IE has always been a bane for web developers. It's like the slightly dysfunctional child in the family Browser. I think, however, that the idea of not supporting new technologies because the most used browser doesn't support it yet is a completely wrong mindset. It is exactly advancements in browsers such as FireFox and Opera why we're not stuck with IE6 and Microsoft is actually putting effort into improving IE.

So FireFox 3.5 is kind of a big deal, maybe at this point just not for your average Joe user that uses it to check his email and stock quotes.
In fact, when Mr. average Joe watches a video in his browser without the need to install Flash, Real Player, Media Player or QuickTime plugins he'll probably not think twice about the technology that's behind that. Nor will he be amazed at the dynamically created graphs at his favorite stock quotes site that don't require a flash app or java applet to run (and thus is a lot faster and requires less resources). But it is the FireFox 3.5's and Opera 10's that make this possible.

So yes, again, FireFox 3.5 is a milestone in browser development even though right now, you and your mother won't really understand what the big deal is about it.

As for addons not working, that's usually quite easy to solve. In 99.9% of the cases, addons stop working because the autor of the addon configured the addon to only work for specific versions of Firefox. This is often unnecessary and only cripples your addon. So to be frank, your addons not working is in most cases a matter of the addon author limiting the addon's functionality rather than FireFox breaking compatibility. If you want to know how to fix "broken" addons, let me know, I'll write up an explanation on how to do it.

If you want to know some of the swanky new stuff that FireFox 3.5 introduced with it's HTML5 support, check this Mozilla blog:

http://hacks.mozilla.org/2009/06/35-days/

Wait, I just remembered I had posted an explanation elsewhere before. This was written up for a specific add-on but serves well as an example. Do remember that despite all that I've said, it still is possible that certain add-ons really are incompatible with newer versions of FireFox. So perform this "addon hacking" at your own risk.

That or you can just install (Which I found a little bit ago, but never updated this thread with.)

Nightly Tester Tools
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6543

that overwrites the prevention of blocking the installation of addons.

Oh look, another FF update. At least nothing was overly promoted that shouldn't have been.

lol. yeah it's just some stability and security issues that were resolved.

You can save your firefox profile to a service like Mozilla Wave and it will backup a ton of your configuration stuff (bookmarks, passwords) that you can restore on other machines since it's stored on the web

I didn't know that. That's kinda cool.

I tend to stay away from services that backup passwords. The way I see it, any service that is storing users passwords, or sensitive data, is a BIG target for hackers. I really don't care what type of security they say they have, if there is any type of large database of sensitive info like that, it's going to get tested by hackers as the hackers know that if they do happen to get it, it's the motherload of info to steal.

I've sense calmed down about FF, but sometimes when clearing history and stuff, it's confusing what's going to clear saved passwords, and what's going to clear cookies, etc.

To me the ability for websites to have your login name and password already in, or auto log you in because it remembers you, should be considered a cookie, but I think it might sense it uses a cookie to auto show your info in the text boxes. So you clear your cookies, and even though FF remembers your password, you still have to put it in.

That is a little dumb, considering that I uncheck the block for deleting passwords.

Or maybe it's just some sites.

I agree. Security would be a big point. I actually haven't thought of it much until you mentioned it.

There are times Firefox pisses me off too but it has evolved so much over the years I don't see any reason to use IE at all anymore (once in a while a site will work better with it but)... also Google Chrome and Opera are decent too, I don't really use them though.

If you don't want to store your bookmarks/passwords on someones computer you can use X-marks or SyncPlaces to sync that stuff to your own server (or ftp)

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/8426

http://www.xmarks.com/

Funny how I think with cloud computing security will be a big issue for some companies... do we trust all of our data to an off-site web server in fear of having it compromised?

Hey this is a nice addon for IE http://code.google.com/chrome/chromeframe/

All the browser wars heating up again sucks from a web developer perspective. I have FF, IE, Opera, and Safari installed, for no other reason than to fix as many display bugs in each browser as possible. While I don't get them all in Opera and Safari I do a pretty good job for IE and FF.

I refuse to install Chrome until google fixes their spyware with their browser. If you look in your msconfig startup google will constantly put a googleupdate loading up every time your machine starts up. If you disable it and restart it adds itself again (either after startup or after you run chrome again)

I sent them a note when they wanted to know why I was uninstalling their browser.

I tried it again a few months later, but it did the same thing.

I don't want something to run all the time for google when I rarely test Chrome anyways. It either already looks good, or is a minor problem. But for them to not warn you that they are putting stuff in your startup is pretty poor on googles part.

What happened to "Do no evil"?

While it's not spyware, I do agree that it's nonsense to have an updater process running. Apple does the same with QuickTime and I believe Java runs an updater service by default as well (although I do believe that can be disabled).
I don't want your bullshit services. When I want to update Chrome, I'll do so myself.

QuickTime Alternative
http://www.free-codecs.com/download...Alternative.htm

Use it well my friend, use it well.

It's a little bit of a run around if you need itunes, since Apples an asshat and tries to claim quicktime is required, but it's still do-able to have itunes installed, and then to uninstall quicktime (I think) and then install the quicktime alternative.

Quicktime alternative comes in very handy when you want to download those 1080p movies from apple and show your friends and family later too.

qttask - I hate you.

I know, I've been using quicktime alternative for quite some time now. Much better. Much less bloat. For the same reason, I've also stopped using Adobe Acrobat Reader recently. I started using SumatraPDF, which is only 1,5mb in size (when fully extracted) and does an excellent job at PDF rendering. It's also completely free.

Only downside to it is that it seems impossible to select text within a PDF, which I do consider to be quite a problem (so I'm not entirely sure I'm sticking to this). I'm also not sure if it actually does browser integration. I don't care much about that though.

You may want to try Foxit.

http://download.cnet.com/Foxit-Read...=dl&tag=button/

It does allow you to highlight text, is a little larger, and from what I can see is suppose to have a FF addon, but I can get it to actually work as far as opening a pdf in a FF tab, but you may still want to try it out.

I found out about it in a recommended firefox addons article.

I've actually been trying to get some PDF stuff going and got sick and tired of trying to get foxit to open in FireFox.

uninstalled.

Try PDF Download 2.2.0.2
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/636

At least it opens pdfs inside of firefox.

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